The Streets - Original Pirate Material

***michaelab*** · 26th June 2003, 16:40

Reviewed here. Following MO!'s suggestion of a post in the rec/review thread and a new thread for discussion.

So - one of my favourite albums of recent months. A surprise, since I'm not at all into the urban/hip-hop/garage scene and usually can't stand it - but this is different and genre busting. Highly recommended

Michael.

**MO!** · 26th June 2003, 17:01

Top stuff michael! One of my fav's too!

Like say it's very easy to relate to. Much like I said with Arab Strap lyrics they're honest open personal and as such easy to relate to!

I'd agree with you on "stay positive" He get's it spot on saying how if you don't feel what he's saying, good luck, well done etc... But beware as one day you very well could!

Though I think the relatively low budget sound of the recording adds to it in so much as making it feel like just another one of "us" I'm really looking forward to future releases. If he can keep the raw freshness but up the quality of the programing then it could be even better! A tall order!!!

One thing though! He's (believe it or not) originaly from Birmingham! Much to the joy of M.C Pitman! I was in a club when I heard a tune i'd never heard before. There was a line:

"not like the streets who talks like a cockney, aren't you from birmingham you nob? Ya get me? We don't give a frig about your friggin ariel.So stick it up your arse with your pirate material! What street you from? Corontaion street? Shag Vera Duckworth on your day off?"

Heard a few of his other tracks since and he's got some very funny lyrics! Seems to have it in for everyone! Sounds like a northern version with MOre minimal beats. Don't take this as a reccomendation though. Not sure if it'll be your thing, but perhaps worth investigating!

***michaelab*** · 26th June 2003, 17:24

Yeah - I knew he was originally from Brummie land, but his accent (thankfully!) doesn't have a trace of the West Midlands in it - it really is quite "London". I read a few reviews of OPM on US sites who didn't do their research well and reported that it's all spoken with a strong Birmingham accent

Now that would be ****ing hilarious

Michael.

**MO!** · 26th June 2003, 17:50

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Originally posted by michaelab
I read a few reviews of OPM on US sites who didn't do their research well and reported that it's all spoken with a strong Birmingham accent Now that would be ****ing hilarious

Michael.

Like I said, MC Pitman!

He's done a song called "it take tea" which is quite similar to "it takes two to make a thing go right"

Very amusing!

**PBirkett** · 26th June 2003, 19:06

Quote:

Originally posted by michaelab
So - one of my favourite albums of recent months. A surprise, since I'm not at all into the urban/hip-hop/garage scene and usually can't stand it - but this is different and genre busting. Highly recommended

Michael.

I think the reason its as popular, is because its more relevant to british life than most hip hop stuff, its music I can genuinely relate to, as can most people, as opposed to this predictable, repetitive yardie shite you get most of the time...

**MO!** · 27th June 2003, 02:03

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, as opposed to this predictable, repetitive yardie shite you get most of the time...

Paul! You have a great way with words mate

**domfjbrown** · 1st July 2003, 12:24

I'm with Paul on that Yardie Shite too...

How often have you heard of a mate AK'ing a load of "business" competitors?

Now, how often do your mates skin up, thrash their Vauxhall Novas like joyriders, and get lairy at the "shit in a tray" merchants after a night on the sauce?

Quite...

Just a shame the vocal delivery appeared to be all over the shop at Glasters' set - dunno what Skinny Boy was on but the timing was defo iffy...

***michaelab*** · 1st July 2003, 13:19

"The Artful Dodger" which Skinner makes reference to in one of his songs (can't remember the exact line) has the distinction of having only made records I can't physically listen to without an overwhelming desire to anihiliate the source of the noise

What do people actually like in mainstream garage?

Michael.

**MO!** · 1st July 2003, 16:03

The artfull dodger is far from my cup of

but his programing/production is pretty good! Not my thing at all though.

**MO!** · 27th April 2004, 19:20

Just heard the new single.

erm........ might be a grower, but bit of a dissapointment. Was hoping for something really great following Pirate material.

Haven't listened to Pirate material for a while either. It was great for a while, and everyone should hear it. But (similar to someone like eminem), it's the stories that are what appeals MOst about the tunes. And like with a book or a film, once you've heard them a few times, they lose some of their appeal. Saying that, I do still play it every now and then and enjoy it.

Infact, I think I'll put it on now

***TonyL*** · 27th April 2004, 19:25

Quote:

Like say it's very easy to relate to. Much like I said with Arab Strap lyrics they're honest open personal and as such easy to relate to!

I'm with you on the Arab Strap comparison. Philophobia really knocked me sideways when I first heard it, I rate it as possibly the album of the 90s. Takes lyrical honesty into a whole new arena!

Tony.

***SCIDB*** · 27th April 2004, 20:53

Hi,

I must admit, I not a big fan of the Streets. First came across him when i heard a white label of his first single. I got some of his single to play at some of my gigs to usually mixed effect from the crowds. I do own his last album & it dosen't do much for me. I think what puts me off is his vocal flow.

I did get his latest single in the post a few weeks ago. It's alright, comes across as more poppy. I would be interesting to hear his next album & to see how his career progresses.

I must admit Arab Strip is something I have not taken much notice of. May dig some out.

SCIDB

**domfjbrown** · 28th April 2004, 08:54

Yeah - I can see where MO's coming from on the "liking the stories" bits, but I still LOVE that album - particularly "Turn the page" as that uplifting strings sound is fantastic. Of course, that one that plays on the end of Human Traffic Remixed (what's it called, uh, oh yeah, "Weak become heroes" is damn cool as well, and that one about the jughead and the dopehead.

I actually ordered the new CD on spec from 101cd.com yesterday - am I likely to be totally stumped with the new one then? (If so, Morrissey and the re-issue of Buzzcocks' "Spiral Scratch"'ll make up for it!).

Gotta love the artwork for the new Moz album too - well cool!

***michaelab*** · 28th April 2004, 11:22

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Originally posted by domfjbrown
and that one about the jughead and the dopehead.

That track is a classic!

"Irony of it all" it's called. Can't listen to it without laughing out loud

Have been listening to the whole album again a few times recently and just confirming how much I like it. Funny what you said Dean about the vocal flow putting you off - it's one of the things I really like about it.

Haven't heard the new single though, looking forward to it.

Michael.

**MO!** · 28th April 2004, 13:55

I heard the new track again last night. It's not utter pants, but still not as good as I'd hoped.

With what Dean said about the flow. Sometimes it works, other times it just sounds weak and like he aint got a clue.

I think GLC (Who skinner himself says make him look tame) are taking the huMOur side of it further.

Pirate material was great because it just described things honestly that many can relate to.

Here's the lyrics to the new track....

Quote:

"Fit But You Know It"

See I reckon you're about an 8 or a 9,
Maybe even 9 and a half in four beers time.
That blue top shop top you've got on IS nice,
Bit too much fake tan though - but yeah you score high.

But theres just one little thing that really really,
Really really annoying me about you you see,
Yeah yeah like i said you are really fit
But my gosh don't you just know it

I'm not trying to pull you
Even though i would like to
I think you are really fit
You're fit But my gosh dont you know it

So when i looked at you standing there with your hoard,
I was waiting in the que looking at the board
Wondering whether to have a Burger or chips
Or what the shrapnel in my back pocket could afford
When i noticed out the corner of my eye
Looking toward my direction
Your eyes locked onto my course
I couldnt concentrate on what i wanted to order,
Which cost me my place in the queue i waited for YEAH

I'm not trying to pull you
Even though i would like to
I think you are really fit
You're fit But my gosh dont you know it

Whoa! Leave it out
Are you smoking something?
Leave it Out
Mike just leave it just leave it
We cannot have that behaviour in this establishment
S'not worth it mike, just leave it
Dont Touch Me, S'not Worth It
Dont Touch Me, D, Look Im Alright Dont Touch me

For a while there i was thinkin - yeah but what if?
Picturin' myself pullin with bare white hot wit
Snarin you as you were standing there opposite
Whether or not you knew it i swear you didnt tick
And when that bloke in the white behind us lot queuing
Was clockin onto you too yeah i had to admit
That yeah yeah you are fit,
And yeah i do want it,
But i stop sharkin' for a minute to get chips and drinks

I'm not trying to pull you
Even though i would like to
I think you are really fit
You're fit But my gosh dont you know it

Oy, just as you started to make your big advance
With the milkshake and that little doughnut in hand
I was like nah, even though you look grand
But you look sharp there smilin hard suggesting and
Gleaming away with your hearty hearty lookin tan
But i admit the next bit was spanner to my plan
You walked towards my path but just brushed right past
And into the arms of that white shirted man

I'm not trying to pull you
Even though i would like to
I think you are really fit
You're fit But my gosh dont you know it

Oh what do i give .. i've got a girlfirend anyway
(whoa, we've all had a drink mate)
We're all a bit drunk, yeah we've had a few fair play
I got this stella i bombed from that last cafe
This nights not even begun, yes yes oh yay

I did fancy you a bit though yeah i must say
I would rather i hadnt mugged myself on display
But this is just another case of female stopping play
On otherwise a total result of a holiday

I'm not trying to pull you
Even though i would like to
I think you are really fit
You're fit But my gosh dont you know it

26th June 2003, 16:40	#1
*michaelab* desafinado Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 6,420	The Streets - Original Pirate Material Reviewed here. Following MO!'s suggestion of a post in the rec/review thread and a new thread for discussion. So - one of my favourite albums of recent months. A surprise, since I'm not at all into the urban/hip-hop/garage scene and usually can't stand it - but this is different and genre busting. Highly recommended Michael.

1st July 2003, 12:24	#7
domfjbrown live & breathe psy-trance Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Exeter (not quite Cornwall!) Posts: 2,641	I'm with Paul on that Yardie Shite too... How often have you heard of a mate AK'ing a load of "business" competitors? Now, how often do your mates skin up, thrash their Vauxhall Novas like joyriders, and get lairy at the "shit in a tray" merchants after a night on the sauce? Quite... Just a shame the vocal delivery appeared to be all over the shop at Glasters' set - dunno what Skinny Boy was on but the timing was defo iffy... __________________ Don't wanna be cremated or buried in a grave Just dump me in a plastic bag and leave me on the pavement A tribute to your modern world, your great society I'm just another victim of your highrise fantasy!

27th April 2004, 19:20	#10
MO! MOnkey`ead! Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 4,883	Just heard the new single. erm........ might be a grower, but bit of a dissapointment. Was hoping for something really great following Pirate material. Haven't listened to Pirate material for a while either. It was great for a while, and everyone should hear it. But (similar to someone like eminem), it's the stories that are what appeals MOst about the tunes. And like with a book or a film, once you've heard them a few times, they lose some of their appeal. Saying that, I do still play it every now and then and enjoy it. Infact, I think I'll put it on now Last edited by MO! : 27th April 2004 at 19:31.

27th April 2004, 20:53	#12
*SCIDB* Triode Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 2,285	Hi, I must admit, I not a big fan of the Streets. First came across him when i heard a white label of his first single. I got some of his single to play at some of my gigs to usually mixed effect from the crowds. I do own his last album & it dosen't do much for me. I think what puts me off is his vocal flow. I did get his latest single in the post a few weeks ago. It's alright, comes across as more poppy. I would be interesting to hear his next album & to see how his career progresses. I must admit Arab Strip is something I have not taken much notice of. May dig some out. SCIDB __________________ There are only two types of music. Music I own and music I don't.

28th April 2004, 08:54	#13
domfjbrown live & breathe psy-trance Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Exeter (not quite Cornwall!) Posts: 2,641	Yeah - I can see where MO's coming from on the "liking the stories" bits, but I still LOVE that album - particularly "Turn the page" as that uplifting strings sound is fantastic. Of course, that one that plays on the end of Human Traffic Remixed (what's it called, uh, oh yeah, "Weak become heroes" is damn cool as well, and that one about the jughead and the dopehead. I actually ordered the new CD on spec from 101cd.com yesterday - am I likely to be totally stumped with the new one then? (If so, Morrissey and the re-issue of Buzzcocks' "Spiral Scratch"'ll make up for it!). Gotta love the artwork for the new Moz album too - well cool! __________________ Don't wanna be cremated or buried in a grave Just dump me in a plastic bag and leave me on the pavement A tribute to your modern world, your great society I'm just another victim of your highrise fantasy!

26th June 2003, 17:01	#2
MO! MOnkey`ead! Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 4,883	Top stuff michael! One of my fav's too! Like say it's very easy to relate to. Much like I said with Arab Strap lyrics they're honest open personal and as such easy to relate to! I'd agree with you on "stay positive" He get's it spot on saying how if you don't feel what he's saying, good luck, well done etc... But beware as one day you very well could! Though I think the relatively low budget sound of the recording adds to it in so much as making it feel like just another one of "us" I'm really looking forward to future releases. If he can keep the raw freshness but up the quality of the programing then it could be even better! A tall order!!! One thing though! He's (believe it or not) originaly from Birmingham! Much to the joy of M.C Pitman! I was in a club when I heard a tune i'd never heard before. There was a line: "not like the streets who talks like a cockney, aren't you from birmingham you nob? Ya get me? We don't give a frig about your friggin ariel.So stick it up your arse with your pirate material! What street you from? Corontaion street? Shag Vera Duckworth on your day off?" Heard a few of his other tracks since and he's got some very funny lyrics! Seems to have it in for everyone! Sounds like a northern version with MOre minimal beats. Don't take this as a reccomendation though. Not sure if it'll be your thing, but perhaps worth investigating!

26th June 2003, 17:24	#3
*michaelab* desafinado Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 6,420	Yeah - I knew he was originally from Brummie land, but his accent (thankfully!) doesn't have a trace of the West Midlands in it - it really is quite "London". I read a few reviews of OPM on US sites who didn't do their research well and reported that it's all spoken with a strong Birmingham accent Now that would be ****ing hilarious Michael.

1st July 2003, 13:19	#8
*michaelab* desafinado Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 6,420	"The Artful Dodger" which Skinner makes reference to in one of his songs (can't remember the exact line) has the distinction of having only made records I can't physically listen to without an overwhelming desire to anihiliate the source of the noise What do people actually like in mainstream garage? Michael.

1st July 2003, 16:03	#9
MO! MOnkey`ead! Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 4,883	The artfull dodger is far from my cup of but his programing/production is pretty good! Not my thing at all though.