DIY Mains Cable : Triple Twisted Snake

**BlueMax** · 27th October 2004, 07:20

Full details of these easy to build (no soldering!) cables are at
http://www.davewhitter.pwp.blueyonde...s_been_aro.htm
http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/ttse.html
http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/tts2e.html
http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/tts3e.html

Cable originally specified was Pirelli Screenflex S2 featuring the double shield (aluminium foil + copper braid) and two 1.5 sq.mm stranded copper conductors. People found it difficult to obtain this so Baldassari cable a single shield only was later recommended. But this cable is also not available now.

Now there is a cable that is better than both! It is perfect for making TNT TTS, and you will have a cable that is cheaper and can outperform The Reference Powercord from RA.

Two 12-gauge conductors, Teflon dielectric and jacket with double foil plus braid shield.
Three of these are braided together for the TTS

Belden 83802
Number of Conductors: 2
AWG: 12. Stranding: 7x20, Conductor Material: TC (Tinned Copper)
Insulation Material : Teflon® (FEP - Fluorinated Ethylene Propylene)
Outer Shield Material : Aluminum Foil-Polyester Tape/TC & Tinned Copper (Beldfoil®)
Outer Shield Coverage: 100%
Outer Jacket Material : Teflon® (Fluorinated Ethylene Propylene)
300Volt, 25 Amp
Overall Nominal Diameter: 0.303 inch (7.69mm)

**running gun** · 3rd November 2004, 19:29

Bluemax
Thats one nice looking cable,is there anywhere in the UK to get Belden 83802 other than in £200 rolls ? Im looking for about 20 foot.
regards
RG

**BlueMax** · 3rd November 2004, 19:57

I don't know of any in the UK.

Few months ago I was quoted £234.23p + VAT for 105 feet by Anixter (Tel: 01895 818181) a major Belden Distributor in the UK. Allowing 10% for termination and twisting, the cost to make 1 meter TTS Mains Cable will be £2.621145x3x1.1x3.280839= £28.38p

TakeFiveAudio.com (Canada) were advertising at C$4.35 per foot or C$3.99 per foot if you buy 100 feet.
= £5.78p per meter.
At C$2.47/UKP price to make 1 meter TTS will be £19.07p plus Import Duty, VAT and Admin fee by Royal Mail.
I have had no dealing with this company but a Canadian poster told me that they are okay.

**running gun** · 4th November 2004, 19:24

Thought that maybe the case - thanks for the reply,I will continue looking.
RG

27th October 2004, 07:20	#1
BlueMax Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: South Coast of UK Posts: 876	DIY Mains Cable : Triple Twisted Snake Full details of these easy to build (no soldering!) cables are at http://www.davewhitter.pwp.blueyonde...s_been_aro.htm http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/ttse.html http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/tts2e.html http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/tts3e.html Cable originally specified was Pirelli Screenflex S2 featuring the double shield (aluminium foil + copper braid) and two 1.5 sq.mm stranded copper conductors. People found it difficult to obtain this so Baldassari cable a single shield only was later recommended. But this cable is also not available now. Now there is a cable that is better than both! It is perfect for making TNT TTS, and you will have a cable that is cheaper and can outperform The Reference Powercord from RA. Two 12-gauge conductors, Teflon dielectric and jacket with double foil plus braid shield. Three of these are braided together for the TTS Belden 83802 Number of Conductors: 2 AWG: 12. Stranding: 7x20, Conductor Material: TC (Tinned Copper) Insulation Material : Teflon® (FEP - Fluorinated Ethylene Propylene) Outer Shield Material : Aluminum Foil-Polyester Tape/TC & Tinned Copper (Beldfoil®) Outer Shield Coverage: 100% Outer Jacket Material : Teflon® (Fluorinated Ethylene Propylene) 300Volt, 25 Amp Overall Nominal Diameter: 0.303 inch (7.69mm) Last edited by BlueMax : 27th October 2004 at 07:47.

3rd November 2004, 19:29	#2
running gun Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: On a blank planet Posts: 41	Bluemax Thats one nice looking cable,is there anywhere in the UK to get Belden 83802 other than in £200 rolls ? Im looking for about 20 foot. regards RG

3rd November 2004, 19:57	#3
BlueMax Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: South Coast of UK Posts: 876	I don't know of any in the UK. Few months ago I was quoted £234.23p + VAT for 105 feet by Anixter (Tel: 01895 818181) a major Belden Distributor in the UK. Allowing 10% for termination and twisting, the cost to make 1 meter TTS Mains Cable will be £2.621145x3x1.1x3.280839= £28.38p TakeFiveAudio.com (Canada) were advertising at C$4.35 per foot or C$3.99 per foot if you buy 100 feet. = £5.78p per meter. At C$2.47/UKP price to make 1 meter TTS will be £19.07p plus Import Duty, VAT and Admin fee by Royal Mail. I have had no dealing with this company but a Canadian poster told me that they are okay.

4th November 2004, 19:24	#4
running gun Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: On a blank planet Posts: 41	Thought that maybe the case - thanks for the reply,I will continue looking. RG